I’m pretty excited about this weeks interview. The junior Wallabies have returned this week from a big win against New Zealand at the Under 20s Oceania cup competition and I got to catch up with 3 of the teams outstanding players, who happen to be Queensland Reds :-). Check out some of the great highlights from the final game here.
I caught up with U20s team captain Fraser McCreight and Harry Wilson during the Reds captains run and because Isaac was involved in the teams training, his team mates answered a couple of my questions in his place!
I’d assumed Isaac Lucas was going to have to run off to catch a flight to Melbourne, but Harry gave him a quick phone call afterwards and Isaac was more than happy to come across and add some extra answers to my questions as well.
So today’s blog post comes in 2 sections! Enjoy!
Hey Fraser, Harry and Isaac (who is absent),
First things first, a HUGE congratulations on the Oceania title win last week! I imagine you guys are still buzzing about the week?
Fraser McCreight: Thank you! Yeah it’s a pretty big win, pretty special. To keep a New Zealand side, or any side scoreless,and you know, to be the first team ever to win the Oceania title [over New Zealand] is actually pretty special. We have a good group of lads and that made it even better.
Harry Wilson: Yeah, it was an absolutely amazing feeling to obviously beat New Zealand and Japan and Fiji too. We played 3 games and had only 14 points scored against us, so it was great fun playing with the boys.
Have you all been back training with the Reds this week?
Harry: Yeah, obviously being back in training Monday and Wednesday with all the boys has been good fun, getting back to the usual fold and seeing the boys again. There’s a great feeling here, obviously they’ve won the last two games, so it’s nice to come back into a winning environment.
And bring the winning environment! [Boys laugh]
I understand this is the last week with the Reds for all of you!
Fraser: Yeah, this is our last full week. We can play this week, if we got picked, which we didn’t, but Isaac did, but then next week we still have the week to train, but we leave on Saturday, so we don’t get to play.
But yeah, still looking forward to being around the lads, and hopefully we’ll beat the Rebels and be on top of the conference.
What’s something you learnt in that competition that you haven’t learnt anywhere else?
Harry: The one thing is, we had 3 days in 12 days, so a 4 day turnaround. I’ve personally probably never put so much emphasis on recovery. Normally you’d get 2 days off and then go into a big training session but we’d have 1 day off, then a double day of sessions, it’s a bit cruel on the body if you don’t treat it right. So just getting in the ice baths and doing anything we can to feel good for the next days training.
Fraser: Yeah, it’s also different… I did it last year, but for some of the new boys, because living with your team mates for two and a half weeks is different as well. Super Rugby, or club rugby, you don’t spend that much time with each other. Luckily for us, we had a good group of guys who loved each other, no one was a hassle, we loved spending time with each other, so that was good.
Can you guys talk us through the competition a bit and share some of the highlights or memorable moments.
Harry: So we had two games, the first one against Japan, then Fiji, then finishing off against New Zealand. Normally in the competition, Australia’s gone very strong in the first two games and then been defeated by New Zealand, we’ve never beaten them. But going into this game this year we were very confident, we’re a very close-knit team and we all trust each other. To get the win there… it was probably the best game I’ve been in in my life, with the way we played as a team, we did whatever it took to win for each other.
Fraser: Yeah I agree with Harry. It was one of those games where everyone bought into what we have to do and everyone did their job to the best of their ability. No one played bad, no one was a clear stand-out. We've got our "players player" here [Harry was voted in for the award by his team-mates] but everyone did their job which was awesome.
Isaac, Samu Kerevi, Reds captain has labeled you the best “Lucas” yet. What do you have to say to that?
Fraser: While Isaac’s not here, we’ll answer for him. He’s the only Lucas I really know, so I’m gonna say he’s the best of the four.
Harry: From my point of view, 100%. I’ve played with him in school and always trained with him, I’ve played with Tom too, but he’s 19 has he’s probably the best U20 in Australia and he’s playing very well for the Reds. I can’t wait to see him over the next few years, just thrive and be one of the best 10 or 15 in Australian rugby.
Fraser: He’s 20 now, and he’s started 2 games and pretty much played every game he could. Big things for Zaccy.
Fraser: He’s 20 now, and he’s started 2 games and pretty much played every game he could. Big things for Zaccy.
Harry: He won’t tell you that, he’ll say he’s the worst.
Fraser: He’s humble, but we’ll give him credit where it’s due.
Isaac has said that this competition win is “half the job” with the World Cup coming up. Do the rest of you guys agree?
Yeah, 100%. I think everyone has bought into the fact that you can’t get complacent. Just winning the Oceania cup, even though that was a great test match, the end result is winning the junior World Cup, which no Australian team has done before. So yeah, 100%, everyones bought in, everyone knows what we have to do, so you can’t be complacent.
Harry: Yeah, Oceania’s given us confidence to know that we can win the World Cup. Now, it’s obviously going to be a bit different over in Argentina, but we’ve got confidence and we’re gonna go over there and try and - or we’re gonna go over there and do it actually.
It seems Brad Thorne has been very supportive, releasing you guys to play for Australia.
Fraser: Yeah. It’s a weird situation we’re in, because we could potentially keep playing here and try and get Super Rugby caps under our belt, but it is pretty special playing for your country. To get time away and learning from all the experience that you’ve got here, with Thorny giving us permission to go across and do everything we can do to win that junior World Cup, it’s pretty cool. So hopefully we can go and get the job done and come back here and do whatever we have to do.
Harry: I agree with that. I know Thorny says there’s nothing more important than playing for your country, so obviously he’s released us to play and yeah, if we go and win the World Cup, there’s probably nothing better we could have done this year, just develop as a player, plus the experiences of playing against European countries, so hopefully next year the experiences we learnt this year we can try and give to the Reds and play hard here.
What are the teams plans for preparation for the World Cup?
Fraser: So we’ve got 10 days in Sydney, from 18th to the 28th May. We’ve got one trial match down there against the Barbarians and maybe another one.
Harry: Yeah maybe an opposed session against [Sydney club] Gordan. That’ll be really good, because now we know our structures and we can train against each other for 10 days and feel good and look good, but testing against good teams and good clubs will be good.
Fraser: Yeah and then there’s Aus Bar-Bars [Barbarians] got picked, there’s a chance we might have a hit-out with them.
What are you looking forward to the most about the World Cup?
Harry: For me, I’ve never played in a World Cup, so I’m excited just to be in a tough environment where I guess you’re playing for your life every game. I’m not sure if Australia’s won an Under 20s World Cup. You might know Frase, have they?
Fraser: I’m pretty sure we won an “under 21 World Cup”, with Genia and all that. But as Under 20s, we came second in I think 2010, but other than that we’ve come fifth or sixth most years.
Harry: It’s been a while then, (since we’ve at least been in the final) so I want to go there and create some history with some of our best mates and a group you love, so I can’t wait to go there and try and smash the world
Fraser: It’s also pretty cool the places you get to go to, we get to go to Argentina
Harry: Eat a lot of steak…
Fraser: A lot of steak… I’ve never been to South America, I don’t think Will has either,and a lot of the boys are in the same boat as we are, so to get to do that with, like Will said, with your best mates, playing rugby - the sport you love, it’s gonna be pretty special.
Thanks for taking time to catch up. All the best with your training camp! I’ll be following your journey to the World Cup closely! Go and kick some butt!
Fraser: [Laughs] That’s our plan. Thanks for having us!
Harry: It’s awesome to be on here and hopefully talk to you soon when we get back!
Harry: It’s awesome to be on here and hopefully talk to you soon when we get back!
Fraser: Hopefully we’ll do everyone proud. Can’t wait!
Thanks for taking time, I know you have to rush off soon. What were some of the highlights or memorable moments from the Oceania competition?
Yeah, it’d be hard to go past the kiwi game. Beating them was very special. I’d have to say not only beating them, but keeping them to zero, that was might highlight of the 20s tournament.
Yeah, it’d be hard to go past the kiwi game. Beating them was very special. I’d have to say not only beating them, but keeping them to zero, that was might highlight of the 20s tournament.
What’s something you learnt in that competition that you haven’t learnt anywhere else?
Probably the small things, having a 4 day turnaround after each game. So things like recovery, the small things that better prepare you for the next game, that was probably my key take-away from the tournament.
Samu Kerevi, Reds captain has labeled you the best “Lucas” yet. What do you have to say to that?
[Laughs] He’s looked after me pretty well there Samu, but I wouldn’t go as far as to say that. I think we’re all pretty different in the way we play the game. There are some similarities… I’ll take it [laughs] but it’s not something I look too far into. We’re all different in our own ways.
2019 has been described as a “breakout” season for you. Were you predicting things to go this way?
2019 has been described as a “breakout” season for you. Were you predicting things to go this way?
No definitely not. It’s been a great ride so far, and obviously a lot of work to do still. But I knew, doing pre-season if I could really train harder, Thorny sort of would be able to reward me and that’s what he’s done. But obviously there’s a lot of hard work to go and a lot of improvement that feel I need to make. But I’m really enjoying my footy. Hard work and enjoying my footy has been the key to the year for me.
Isaac, you said that the Oceania competition win is “half the job” with the World Cup coming up. Could you elaborate on that a little bit?
Yeah. The Oceania tournament was really good to win, we didn’t take that lightly, it was a big achievement. But when I said that, obviously the World Cup is coming up and our ultimate goal is to take that out. It’s a very tough tournament to win. While it was a good confidence booster, a great win down on the Gold Coast, half the job is done… we’ve got a massive challenge down in Argentina, to win the ultimate goal.
What are you looking forward to the most regarding this competition?
Obviously to play rugby, it’s Under 20s - you don’t take that lightly, you’re representing your country, I’m really looking forward the rugby and playing for my country. But also, the off-field stuff - I’ve never been to Argentina, so it’ll be great to get the opportunity to experience a different culture and explore and sight-see and that sort of stuff. The rugby aspect is obviously the most important, but you’ve got to take a step back sometimes and take in your surroundings.
Thanks heaps for your time and all the best this his weekend. I’ll be watching and cheering you on!
No worries Tommy! Thank you very much. Hopefully we can get the job done.
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